As everyone knows, graphic designers are the reason there are so many wars in this world. They get inside our heads with their subliminal advertising, force us against our will to spend money on the worst pieces of shit, and eventually, drive us to depression and random acts of violence. And of course, most of them are communists.
So to do my part to save the world from them, i made a list of things you can do when working with a graphic designer, to assure that they have a burn-out and leave this business FOREVER.
1-Microsoft Office
When you have to send a graphic designer a document, make sure it's made with a program from Microsoft Office. PC version if possible. If you have to send pictures, you'll have more success in driving them mad if, instead of just sending a jpeg or a raw camera file, you embed the pictures inside a Microsoft Office document like Word or Powerpoint. Don't forget to lower the resolution to 72 dpi so that they'll have to contact you again for a higher quality version. When you send them the "higher" version, make sure the size is at least 50% smaller. And if you're using email to send the pictures, forget the attatchment once in a while.
2-Fonts
If the graphic designer chooses Helvetica for a font, ask for Arial. If he chooses Arial, ask for Comic Sans. If he chooses Comic Sans, he's already half-insane, so your job's half done.
3-More is better
Let's say you want a newsletter designed. Graphic designers will always try to leave white space everywhere. Large margins, the leading and kerning of text, etc. They will tell you that they do this because it's easier to read, and leads to a more clean, professional look. But do not believe those lies. The reason they do this is to make the document bigger, with more pages, so that it costs you more at the print shop. Why do they do it? Because graphic designers hate you. They also eat babies. Uncooked, raw baby meat.
So make sure you ask them to put smaller margins and really, really small text. Many different fonts are also suggested (bonus if you ask for Comic Sans, Arial or Sand). Ask for clipart. Ask for many pictures (if you don't know how to send them, refer to #1). They will try to argument, and defend their choices but don't worry, in the end the client is always right and they will bow to your many requests.
4-Logos
If you have to send a graphic designer a logo for a particular project, let's say of a sponsor or partner, be sure to have it really really small and in a low-res gif or jpeg format. Again, bonus points if you insert it in a Word document before sending it. Now you might think that would be enough but if you really want to be successful in lowering the mental stability of a graphic designer, do your best to send a version of the logo over a hard to cut-out background. Black or white backgrounds should be avoided, as they are easy to cut-out with the darken or lighten layer style in photoshop. Once the graphic designer is done working on that bitmap logo, tell him you need it to be bigger.
If you need a custom made logo, make your own sketches on a napkin. Or better yet, make your 9 year old kid draw it. Your sketch shouldn't take more than 5 minutes to make. You don't want to make something that's detailed and easy to understand, because the less the designer understands what you want, the more you can make him change things afterwards. Never accept the first logo. Never accept the 9th, make him do many changes, colors, fonts & clip art. Ask him to add a picture in the logo. Bevels. Gradients. Comic Sans. And when he's at his 10th attempt, tell him that you like the 2nd one the most. I know, it's mean but remember: graphic designers are the cause of breast cancer among middle aged women.
5-Chosing your words
When describing what you want in a design, make sure to use terms that don't really mean anything. Terms like "jazz it up a bit" or "can you make it more webbish?". "I would like the design to be beautiful" or "I prefer nice graphics, graphics that, you know, when you look at them you go: Those are nice graphics." are other options. Don't feel bad about it, you've got the right. In fact, it's your duty because we all know that on fullmoons, graphic designers shapeshift into werewolves.
6-Colors
The best way for you to pick colors (because you don't want to let the graphic designer choose) is to write random colors on pieces of paper, put them in a hat and choose. The graphic designer will suggest to stay with 2-3 main colors at the most, but no. Choose as many as you like, and make sure to do the hat thing in front of him. While doing it, sing a very annoying song.
7-Deadlines
When it's your turn to approve the design, take your time. There is no rush. Take two days. Take six. Just as long as when the deadline of the project approaches, you get back to the designer with more corrections and changes that he has time to make. After all, graphic designers are responsible for the 911 attacks.
8-Finish him
After you've applied this list on your victim, it is part of human nature (although some would argue weather they're human or not) to get a bit insecure. As he realises that he just can't satisfy your needs, the graphic designer will most likely abandon all hopes of winning an argument and will just do whatever you tell him to do, without question. You want that in purple? Purple it is. Six different fonts? Sure!
You would think that at this point you have won, but don't forget the goal of this: he has to quit this business. So be ready for the final blow: When making final decisions on colors, shapes, fonts, etc, tell him that you are disappointed by his lack of initiative. Tell him that after all, he is the designer and that he should be the one to put his expertise and talent at work, not you. That you were expecting more output and advices about design from him.
Tell him you've had enough with his lack of creativity and that you would rather do your own layouts on Publisher instead of paying for his services. And there you go. You should have graphic designer all tucked into a straight jacket in no time!
*Edit : Thanks to Cattya who took the time to create graphics on her translation of 8 ways to drive a graphic designer mad. I've added a couple here to make my post look better, but you'll have to visit her site to see the rest!
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GREAT POST! hehe
Graphic designers are evil! Ce serait drôle faire une chanson là-dessus...
Breath in. Breath out. Fuck ca fait du bien d'exprimer sa frustration de meme!
Vous, mes chers milliers de lecteurs, avez vous des histoires comme ca a partager à propos des gens avec qui vous travaillez?
TORDANT!!! LOVE THE RANT!
C'est tellement drôle quand des gens font du venting sous forme de How-to.
Brilliant.
Bass
Hehe Merci Bass!
Je crois que tout le monde devrait venter leur frustration sur internet. Forget about file sharing, online videos and porn... Internet was invented for bitchin'!!!
Moi ça m'ait pas arrivé, mais je suis souvent celle qui doit essayer de trouver le juste milieu entre ce que le client veut et ce que le graphiste veut. Pas toujours évident non plus...
Un EXCELLENT texte! Très impressionnant! C'est drôle quand même que tu sois aussi bon à l'écrire que je le suis en design!
Merci Val!
But, euh, qu'est-ce que tu essaies de dire au juste?!
Olé! TORDANT!
Entre ceci pis les jeudis à Bass...j'sais juste pas quoi choisir! :P
J'adore la running gag de Comic Sans...LOL!
Haha merci Pout!
J'pense que jva venir me défouler sur mon blog plus souvent!
Holy flurking shnit! OUI!!!!!!
I have been a victim of Numbers 1 (many times), 4, 6, 7 and 8.
For extra torture, make sure you never learn a damn thing about how graphic work is done, so you can just expect stuff to be "easy" ("But I gave you that 10-pixel BMP on a Word document... I don't understand why you can't print a 10-foot banner of it!").
Fuckers.
Hahaha! Wow! You actually lived through #6? Being a graphic designer sure ain't easy!
Magnifique condensé de réalité :)
Wow I had a client that did ALL of this to me. And what's worse, he was my very FIRST client. I guess if I survived that, I can survive anything!
Such a great post, I had to quote you on my blog. Thanks for pointing out the absurd behavior of clients! http://blog.jungle8.com/2007/08/10/8-sure-fire-ways-to-drive-a-graphic-designer-mad/
This made me laugh. But it also made me very, very sad.
petite précision:
graphic designers are only the tools that make the layouts, logo etc. You reference specifically advertising industry things ("get into our heads with subliminal advertising", etc oh and how can purveyors such consumer marketing be comunists. think about it.) and in that case the people pulling the strings are the creative directors, advertising and marketing strategists, and upwards. Graphic designers do one thing: they make graphics. A very useful and important part of the process, but by no means where heavy lifting is done.
good day. ;)
I think it's "straitjacket" and not "straight jacket"
Yeap... all points are checked... to be more mean, please talk philosophically in abstract vocabulary as if you are very very smart.
I just had a client that is exactly as described.
good post :)
Thanks everyone!
Don't forget that they know more about design than the designer. After all, the designer wasted 4 years or so at college, cause how hard can it be to 'make it blue'?! Any idiot can use photoshop, hell even my two year old kid can...
Thanks for the advice! Used it on my designer and now she is serving time for butchering half the office.
Mission accomplished.
Yup, yup, so true. You just forgot to add in the bit about the evil boss's role in all of it...
Hehe Li san, i'm glad i could help! and Lesley, that might be a good topic for a future post?
Don't forget the Papyrus font! If you won't allow them to use Comic Sans, then they'll insist on Papyrus.
So true... Can't stand papyrus!!! Maybe that's what they mean when they say to jazz it up.
"webbish" me tue.
J'suis mort de rire!
Brilliant... I am sure we could come up with 2 more to make a perfect 10 ways.
I sent this post to my brother the designer, and he accused me of sending it to all his clients!
oh. my. god. i can't tell you how much this post made me want to cry. i laughed first, but then i wanted to cry because right now i'm working on the project from hell where the client has hit every single point on that list. verbatim.
WHY??? WHY???????
Don't forget to put his hopes up by saying "I think the clients will go for it this time" only to find out in the last minute that its all been rejected and he needs to provide new options within the next hour.
Hey,
I read your post and felt like you're reading my mind.
I'm a web designer in an Israeli company called Netcraft, and we would like to translate your post to Hebrew and publish it in our blog. Of-course, with credit and link to your blog.
What do you say?
Thanks,
Noa
To Noa:
Sure, go ahead! Just make sure to link to my blog as you said.
Thanks for asking first :)
I keep having someone tell me they want scrolling text on their web. Hell no! I keep ignoring her
Scrolling text, frames, animated gifs... I've seen 'em all!!!
You really hit the nail on the head. Many a client has nearly taken me out with nearly all of those points, especially the wack a$$ color choices and millions of fonts. lol
Thank you thank you THANK YOU!!! There ARE others out there who have to deal with this bullshit on a daily basis! I think it's high time we all banded together and show clients what evil really is!... Maybe not. Either way, well-said, and I'm going to make sure none of our clients or Account Executives ever see this.
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man .. the end is hilarious
congratulation
I think this would've looked A LOT better if it were done in the font SAND.
oh god, I hope my clients dont read that, my plans would be destroyed!
hilarious and true. But honestly, half the reason designers are treated like this is b/c they bring it upon themselves. Designers should refuse to be treated in certain ways and quit projects or retain the creative. Obviously this is easier said than done since it's a very competitive field and there's tons of us out there; not to mention we need the money. But just like the green movement – grassroots efforts start the ball rolling. People need to better understand our craft and who better to teach than the craftspeople themselves!
Good points zach. Also something that i find hard to do is educating the client about why some of their choices might not be appropriate for a certain project without insulting them, or sounding like that artsy-fartsy-creative-know-it-all.
It also takes a lot of time and patience to go through with this, and sometimes it's just easier (and lazier) to just do as your told like i've mentionned in my last point.
Graphic designers are responsible for world hunger, leprosy and Paris Hilton.
I won't take the blame for Paris Hilton. It's a known fact that she doesn't really exist; she was manufactured by the republican media to distract the mind of the population from more important subjects!
Seriously! - What is it with putting images in word doc's - i just don't understand!!!
Best thing I have read in a long time! Only one thing missing that would make that font list complete...Mistral.
ha ha ha you are really great man, hoping God bless you
Excellent … was it meeting my friend Rick that made you hate graphic design artists so much ?
ALL, and I mean ALL my graphic design friends will be MADE to read this. Even if I have to tie them down to their squeeky chairs and read it aloud to them I will...just for the sheer pleasure or the pain :P
hahaha nice. DO IT!
Thanks
Hilarious, scary and true. Even though we GDs are the anal creatives out there just think of all the beautifully designed websites, magazines, posters, cool invites etc that wouldn't exist without us...cuz we make it ALL pretty!
it would be an ugly, clip-arted, 8 colored, 10 fonted, maxxed out space world of crap-a-doody
Awesome post!!
My favorite part
"They also eat babies. Uncooked, raw baby meat."
Now don't forget about us inhouse designers who have the annoying boss that knows nothing about the software but thinks they do. They sit right behind you looking over your shoulder for hours going "Use that curves thing again"
Thanks for the laugh!
Well I can tell you how I ended up looking at this link... I own websites and I hire GD's all teh time. A designer friend of mine from Justin's Art AT www.justins-art.com sent it to me. Being in the industry of designers I sent it to someone else, who also reported sending it to someone else, and so on. Plus I added you to my RSS feed and I knwo some other friends did the same.
Word of mouth is a powerful tool. Speaking of which I want to know more about that ool you use to track your usage. Email me thegenealogytree AT yahoo DOT com
Reading this was like being a kid watching Doctor Who - as soon as I read 'Comic Sans' I hid behind a cushion.
FooF
YOU SPEAKS MY MIND!!!!!!!
Srsly I have this boss who purposely does is tells me one thing, hes right there watching me!!! When I am done he goes thats not what I said, even though I repeated and explained step by step what I was doing, not once did he question or stop me because I was DOING IT WRONG!!
Also I want to know how can you customize your blogger I am using my template ready. Every time I make the template, when making a blog, it reverts back to the original.
Thanks you save me from insanity because my boss name is Jasmine, and well she says Jazz it up or better Snazz it up.
This was painfully good! It´s like all my clients secret living code.
Hola
Soy de Argentina...y me parece excelente!! porque estoy estudiando Diseño Grafico..
NICO NAG
Hi!!
I'm from Argentina..and I think that's excellent..because I'm study to be a Graphic Designer....
thanks you
Hilarious, after two years of working for hick-ass newspapers I could not take the ridiculous request any longer and went fully freelance. I make shit money now, but god, the freedom from sales reps and their ad designs is worth it.
I had a boss who did this to me, only I was hired as an all-around person (still am an all-around person) and have no graphic design degree to my name. Her husband was a graphic designer so she thought she knew all about what made design work.
Best part? Along with the 'no initiative' bit, she'd always toss in 'and remember, you're not a professional designer.'
I'm so glad that bitch is gone....
That's another good point... People (clients or bosses) that think they know more about design than you, but yet hire you to do the work.
it is also very nice when the client claims they are a graphic designer too. Since they have powerful tools at home like the Adobe program. They usually do all their design work with this Adobe program.
I walk into my office every single morning and I want to fly into a mad rampage. Now I know why. It's because my clients---every single one of them---have read this post and are following these steps to a fault.
This is seriously the best thing I've ever read in my life.
Hey,
May I translate this in Bulgarian for some friends, that are graphic designers, but do not speak English well?
Nice complation! Here is one more:
Never allow the Designer to choose a printing service he knows and trusts. Instead wait until all artworks are finished for offset- or screen printing (bonus point if they include unusual decoration colors like gold or neon-pink at this point) - then demand that every Document is delivered to you in Word- / Powerpoint- / or Exel Format so you can do all the printing yourself on your 10 year old black & white printer that only knows 5 fonts (guess what types...). After receiving the Files wait for two weeks, then call the Designer and complain about the printouts not looking like the original layouts.
Nikola: Go ahead, translate it! Just don't forget to link me :)
Thanks
Oh god. Thank you for making my day!
Hmmm... now if only I could learn how to email this politely to my boss...
haha
GersonCurse, just write down the address on a post-it note and leave it around his desk, anonymously. :)
Joris je bent een fukker!
Chris
great list
I once was required to design a wine list for a 4star restaurant using Excel (true story)
hillarious
luckily no one applies this list on me yet, except for the FINISH HIM step.
after a damn long process, with several revisions and re-dos, they said exactly this: i was expecting more output and advices about design from you.
Can you add "illustrator" along with graphic designer to the title of this (spot on) post? I think I navigate ALL of these items weekly. Ugh.
Lovely! Am gonna link to this!
Love it! Here's my story:
I was doing a pro-bono design job for a nonprofit. The head honcho (a friend) had approved it but when the money man (also a friend) saw it, he made me kill the bleeds to cut printing costs. Later, the printer (yet another friend) calls to tell me the money man had called and made her change the fonts to match what the office computers used. So they could eventually print their own copies. Needless to say, I don't design for them anymore.
I think you could add to the last point the "Mh... Not bad but that's not quite the idea we were thinking about in out last meeting [were obviously everybody was there --even the janitor-- but you] We were thinking more on..." and then deliver a completely different (and uncoherent) line of work.
That should help ;)
What a great rant!
I´ve also discovered that if you want to make a nice design that gets accepted, you have to first make a totally half-witted crappy demo version, because if you do it really nice and sleek the first time it will get ruined by the "mandatory" changes. Has anyone EVER gotten their work accepted the first time, even if it was the coolest and greatest piece of designer art you´ve ever made? NO!
Something needs to be changed just for the sake of change.
To me, another way of overcoming them is by doing it all by yourself using a professional tough from the graphic designers themself. I do that easily using this program
http://www.gfx-writer.com/index.php?ID=JV-4RRBXBCK6URK826D
I love your post really well.
Ha ha this is so funny and yet so true so sad :o(
I've actually had clients asking for wild colors and fonts, won't listen to a word i have to say, then finally after 5 mocks finally emails me asking 'can you show me a better way to do this' ... ahhhh .. but that's the first and only time i've allowed that to happen.
It's this mad mad world that shapes us designers into the mean baby eaters :o(
i dont agree with all of them.. the more colors the better.. i don't care, client has to pay for printing.
Deadlines? why would I care if it takes you two days or two weeks as long as client pays he is the one waiting for the project, no rush.
Great article!
The pSit team truly believe that designers are responsible for the fires here in Greece (http://groy82.blogspot.com/2007/03/8-ways-to-drive-graphic-designer-mad.html)
Nice...the classics with a twist, push and shove.
Its typeface not font!!! Chris Weston-Designer
A great article, funny like hell, but let's be realistic - it's every bit over the top for not ALL designers deserve to be treated like rubbish. Lots of them are diletantes alright, but then, for every ten graphic designers, there is always one that tries to make things look nice for the better world. VISUAL CULTURE anyone?
Without it, like without music, a life is an error indeed!
And here I thought it was just ME!!! Thanks for a great laugh..... I love the comment Axel made about the printers... that is just soooo true!
hello!
I have a suggestion for the #9 in this blog, and it is very common in my country where 99% of people never heard about graphic design, and it is "after you did all this to your designer, please don't forget NEVER to pay him for all his services, because, after all, he did nothing, you designed everything by yourself... this will probably work and the GD will quit everything!"... very sad...
congratulations for putting together all of our worst nightmares, this will go to all my clients... :)
Thanks to everyone who took the time to comment recently.
I just wanted to point out that "make it more funky" is another term I often hear from clients.
Correct me if i'm wrong but isn't Funk the cheesy 60s music people will make fun of when talking about porn? How can a doctor's prescription pad benefit from a funky "typeface", for example?
My clients are offenders of all or more of these annoying little antics!
so real it's not even funny :-))
lol, very funny.
I have to put up with most of the points regularly, either from freelance clients or inhouse from my boss...
Although it seems that some people that have commented dont seem to recognise the irony and sarcasism, I'm assuming you are a designer yourself of course, if not, damn you for putting this list together!! Heh. Nice work though, was an entertaining read, thanks.
This is so true and absolutely great! I have sent it to all my design colleagues!
Thanks!
I personally feel that whichever designer that used the phrase "make it pop" in front of a non-designer should be beaten with a sack of oranges.
Grosso mal!!! Voy a intentar traducirlo asi se lo mando a mis compañeros diseñadores!!
Translate:
Great!!! I will try to translate all text to send it to my designer colleagues!!
your post is hilarious and so true! some clients are just sooooooooo stupid! the lores jpg pics inserted into a microsoft word file really drives me insane! and btw, my CD hates brushscript!
I´m glad you liked.
Its impressive how same situation repeats all around the glove.
Best wishes.
why so much hatred for designers? someone forwarded this rant to me and I have now discovered a subculture of GD haters all over the world... why????
And, really, what is with people who want an estimate when they don't know what they want!?!?!? I just want to say,"it depends on how long you can't make up your puny little mind!"
Oh, and one last thing... why does everyone expect the designer to starve so they can have that fancy new site they can brag about. Maybe we designers wouldn't have to eat raw baby meat if clients were realistic and paid their f-ing bills!
Such a great text!.
I hope you don't mind that I translated it into spanish and posted it on my blog: cattya.com
Great work!
Being a designer is the greatest thing I can think of to do in this world...at least for me. oh...and one more thing. Whoever it was that wrote this should have enlisted the help of a designer for proofing purposes. It would have had a greater impact had it not had misspellings and grammatical errors. Nice try though.
Cattya : You can translate it, no problem!
Steve : Feel free to send me any corrections. I'm french, so I have an excuze too make mystacks.
Oh and Cattya, nice job on your blog! Very nice. I like the graphics you added to the post!
Feel free to use the graphics in your post if you want.
I only ask you to copy them into your server and write a short line crediting me (fucking designers, always asking for glory).
If you want the one with the meaningless words, just tell me some you want (cattya at cattya dot com) and I'll change them for you.
Let's not forget those folks dealing with the corporate design world. The world where the marketing managers refuse to submit work to clients until the marketing manager's sucky ideas are implemented in to the design! Generally, these marketing managers' previous positions have been in departments such as HR, janitorial, IT---which means that they know nothing, NOTHING, about design. or how to truly make something "pop." (So help me, if I hear that term one more time, something's going to pop, alright!) The world where the marketing VP changes his mind daily; changes the direction of a campaign, daily; the world where he leaves art direction up to the production manager (What?? Yep. No lie!!)
The "Eight Ways ..." made me sad but, perhaps, has given me justification for what I've been thinking for the past year or so ... quit this fucking business. Hell, I can make a difference elsewhere. Or, with so many years under my belt, maybe I'm still "all in."
unless you gain absolutely no pleasure in the visual aspects in the world or are blind, then you have no reason to hate on graphic designers. or designers in general. i completly agree with the previous post which states that without us you'd live in basically in a bland world. if you have any respect for the arts then you wouldn't use evil anywhere to describe artists. You bought that piece of over-priced crap because of an ad that made you go "oooh i want that," because that graphic designer is damn good at their job.
I go through all 8 every day. Ive been at this for 12 years. Almost there...business
Oddly, I just did a freelance job for someone (crazily enough another "Graphic designer" who didnt have time to meet his clients demands and hired me) and i got all of this 1-8 from another graphic designer!
Haha!
Oh no, it was a spy!
I think i might just go and bomb a building after reading that!
You captured my worst clients all rolled into one.
Maybe the exception is the one that made me do 12 re-makes before finally saying he wanted it EXACTLY the way he gave it to me (why did he need me at all?)
...but does it have the 'wow' factor?
It's like you sat in on my last job! I did a pro bono job for a friend of a friend and he said from the beginning he didn't know what he wanted but he wanted it "like last year's but better". And then everytime he asked for a revision he refered to last year's which had 6 fonts, low rez images, text going in 4 different directions, 5 seperate colours, and was done by a student on word I'm sure. I finally succumbed to his every wish after a number of changes and simply asked him not to put my name on anything.
Brilliant indeed, I am from Romania and the same as many of us that read this, I had the feeling you read our mind. I'll translate it into romanian and post it over my desk. Nice said.
Ana
awesome piece!!...gonna link to this...and make sure every designer read this!!! :)
Thanks!
Preach on, brother!
hahhahhhaa. True!
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iKFOcU Magnific!
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